My great uncle was a very active Mason. He told me that it was not just an angry mob that killed Joseph Smith, but an organized hit by the Masons. Smith had been a Mason and was accused of divulging Mason secrets to non Masons. This may be false but my uncle believed it to be true.
Robert K Stock
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A Question for anyone familiar with Mormons and RCLDS
by Cicatrix inhi there, i was wondering if any of you who have experience with the mormons know anything about the reorganised church of jesus christ of latter day saints.
how are they similar and how do they differ?
i was told by a relative who grew up attending the reorganised church of latter day saints that they broke off over some differences, but i don't know what they were.
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A Question for anyone familiar with Mormons and RCLDS
by Cicatrix inhi there, i was wondering if any of you who have experience with the mormons know anything about the reorganised church of jesus christ of latter day saints.
how are they similar and how do they differ?
i was told by a relative who grew up attending the reorganised church of latter day saints that they broke off over some differences, but i don't know what they were.
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Robert K Stock
The short answer is that the RLDS looked to Joseph Smith's son as the leader and set up shop in Independence. Mo. while the LDS followed Brigham Young to Utah.
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JWD soundtrack
by Bas inok, here it goes, everybody can put up one song for the official jwd soundtrack, mine:.
"fu-gee-la" by the fugees.
[(lauryn) repeat chorus 2x:].
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Robert K Stock
Won't Be Fooled Again, the Who
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A world for all of us
by greendawn inwhen people are with the jws one of the tactics they use to deter them from leaving is the fear of the world, with typical cunning they over-emphasize its negative things, down play or ignore its positive things, and make sweeping generalisations about its nature.
in reality the world has everything and you can choose what you want to be or make out of life eg you can be a self denying saint or a sex crazed womaniser and nobody cares.
that is the golden abundance of the world and it belongs to all and i reconnected with it after leaving the jws with that thought.
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Robert K Stock
To be considered a "worldy" person is a compliment. To people outside the Watchtower "worldly" means well rounded, knowing and wise.
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Meat Tree
by EvilForce inthere was an elder that i was out in service with one afternoon and durin lunch we got into a discussion about vegetarianism.
i am a vegetarian and have been since having a "bad experience" with meat.
(i don't care if others eat it, i just don't like it...so no judgements from me.
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Robert K Stock
EvilForce:
In the World Government book it states that it is possible that the universe may be filled by perfect humans from the planet Earth.
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Meat Tree
by EvilForce inthere was an elder that i was out in service with one afternoon and durin lunch we got into a discussion about vegetarianism.
i am a vegetarian and have been since having a "bad experience" with meat.
(i don't care if others eat it, i just don't like it...so no judgements from me.
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Robert K Stock
In every picture of the new system in all the magazines and books you never see a roast or barbeque, just fruits, nuts and vegetables.
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Meat Tree
by EvilForce inthere was an elder that i was out in service with one afternoon and durin lunch we got into a discussion about vegetarianism.
i am a vegetarian and have been since having a "bad experience" with meat.
(i don't care if others eat it, i just don't like it...so no judgements from me.
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Robert K Stock
Many articles in the Watchtower would argue that living forever would not be boring by quoting how excited certain scientists were by studying one type of fish or insect for twenty years. The Watchtower would then say what if you had hundreds, thousands or millions of years to pursue your interests?
I always took that to mean humans would continue to produce new art, music and science. The natural state of humans is to grow. Stagnation equals death. That is the mistake most of my Witness friends made, they thought of life in the new system as not living as human beings but as museum exhibits.
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If God doesn't want brothers to have beards, why does it grow?
by JH in.
men have facial hair and women don't, and that's god who decided that.. so why can't brothers have beards or goatees.
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Robert K Stock
Because if God exits he/she/it is a Sadist.
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Meat Tree
by EvilForce inthere was an elder that i was out in service with one afternoon and durin lunch we got into a discussion about vegetarianism.
i am a vegetarian and have been since having a "bad experience" with meat.
(i don't care if others eat it, i just don't like it...so no judgements from me.
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Robert K Stock
Witnesses I knew in California and Texas thought that the highest level of technology in the new system would be no more than what was available in the 1800's. Some would become very upset when I said that science and technology would continue to progress.
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What book helped "open your eyes"
by Shawn inthe obvious two would be coc and isocf.
are there any others that had an impact on your beliefs/doubts?
are there any that are not apostate?
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Robert K Stock
Crisis of Conscience opened my eyes and The Gentile Times Reconsidered removed every ounce of faith I had in the Watchtower. With 1914 gone the Watchtower crumbled to dust for me.